Why does Russia have the best maps of Britain?

Jan 11, 2021
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    Jay ForemanJay Foreman6 days ago
    • @Jimbob Robob Exactly how would control hundreds of millions of people even the Germans found it near impossible.

      yfelwulfyfelwulfDay ago
    • @Influence08 Australia never entered Europe other than providing pilots.

      yfelwulfyfelwulfDay ago
    • Planning for an invasion is a bit of the usual paranoid middle class overreach about the USSR. As if a conventional bombing campaign might not have preceded a nuclear one or sabotage and special ops by agents and special forces wouldn't have been a thing. Invasion indeed! How paranoid. It's as if the anxiety over Putin has pushed aside the collapse of the USSR under it's own deficiencies when it was revealed to be almost certainly incapable of such a thing and had been for decades.

      Jimbob RobobJimbob RobobDay ago
    • @thats not your bussines Unlike America that is about to become a 4th World Country.

      yfelwulfyfelwulfDay ago
    • @Raged Ape evo Russia had Germany on the run before the Allies entered Europe they actually captured Berlin. They also at Americas request defeated Japan in just 2 weeks. America only fought 20% of the Japanese Army that had no equipment and had to steal food to operate. They used the A Bomb to stop them surrendering to Russia. FYI the British Army outfought and captured more territory than America in Europe you must have seen the movie version where America won.

      yfelwulfyfelwulfDay ago
  • 1:50 ah yes, the Sunderland. One of my favourite planes. (also I agree that it should be called a swimming plane)

    Green SharkGreen Shark43 minutes ago
  • "What have the Russians ever done for us?" Besides, winning world war II?

    jimmy ejimmy e2 hours ago
  • You lost me at "Russia" when talking about the Cold War. Soviet Union. It is not the same thing.

    hsm_ epic_returnhsm_ epic_return3 hours ago
    • Virgin British-English dialect: Eastbourne Chad Polish lingo: I S T B O N

      mijuo rouimijuo roui47 minutes ago
  • Maps spelled backwards is SPAM

    jimmy ejimmy e3 hours ago
  • why is this so cute? 6:05 I can't stop replaying it :D

    just don't.just don't.3 hours ago
    • I love that moments when British people try to say something in Polish, and they are very proud of the sound they just made, when they actually aren't even close :D

      mijuo rouimijuo roui47 minutes ago
  • допустим

    Stret173Stret1734 hours ago
  • I bet the Russians have a map of this room right now!!! Gah! 😣...

    Cypher791Cypher7914 hours ago
  • These maps are wonderful, I work in contaminated land so I use these maps all the time but never knew the history behind them :-D Maybe its time for the fire risk maps of London, they are fun!!

    Wizzkid3000Wizzkid30004 hours ago
  • Omg blink!

    Magpie Of TruthMagpie Of Truth5 hours ago
  • Because they wanted to invade.

    Δημητρης ΚαραμανοςΔημητρης Καραμανος5 hours ago
  • Unfortunately, thanks to North Korea bringing back MAD and Cold War politics plus Trump getting rid of the Iran nuclear deal, now nukes have become an appropriate way to spend taxpayer money.

    Julia LiliensteinJulia Lilienstein5 hours ago
  • As Victor Suvorov has noticed, one of the reasons for the 1941 German sucess was that USSR had no accurate maps of its own territory to give to its own troops although it had excellent maps of.... Germany. This tells us something of their pre-war plans, doesn't it?

    Morning_glory MonsterMorning_glory Monster5 hours ago
  • I just read that Australian maps have been adjusted to allow for continental drift. Any chance of digging into that?

    Grogery 1Grogery 17 hours ago
    • Oh boy, you’re in luck! Stay tuned to this channel for another 3 weeks......

      Jay ForemanJay Foreman6 hours ago
  • Yet again the meme that the Soviets won the war by themselves. TL;DR it was a combined effort, the Allies wouldn't have made it without the Soviets and vice versa. Yes they absorbed circa 80% of German ground forces, but circa 80% of the Luftwaffe was kept busy by Allied bombing of Germany... The scale and impact of the bombing and the detriment it had to the German war effort cannot be over emphasised enough. At the height of the bombing, the RAF would send a stream of circa 1000 bombers to a single target in one night, whilst the USAAF kept them busy with similar numbers during the day. This is something the Soviets had absolute no capability to do, being entirely consumed by their efforts in the ground war. It was 24 hours round the clock and anything of military importance in Western and Central Europe (factories, industrial output, railways, roads, bridges) etc. that could be of use to the Axis was absolutely obliterated. More civilians died in a single night raid on Dresden than during the whole of the Blitz on Britain. It got so bad that entire supply chains ceased to function... Most of Europe was starving and emaciated due to the food shortages, millions of civilians were displaced etc. it was absolute anarchy. Not to mention the countless millions of tons of fuel, munitions, and other war materials etc. that were sent to the Soviets by both the UK and US via the Artic Convoys. In total they received tens of thousands of vehicles (trucks, aeroplanes, tanks etc.) and then they immediately stabbed us in the back with the Cold War. Stalin was as bad as the Austrian man but for some reason he, and the Soviets, get a free pass in modern culture. What about the gulags, massacre of Poles at Katyn etc. etc. the list of Soviet atrocities matches those of the Axis blow for blow. They were partners of convenience and nothing more. As soon as the war ended they then decided to hold the world to ransom for 50 years with the Cold War.

    hoppuss44hoppuss448 hours ago
    • stfu

      Кот ДоступаКот Доступа7 hours ago
  • Russian's didn't win WW2. The Americans did.

    sirattheboxsiratthebox8 hours ago
    • stfu

      Кот ДоступаКот Доступа7 hours ago
  • Jacob and Esau... the story continues...

    TheBestlaidschemesTheBestlaidschemes8 hours ago
  • 10,000 miles? how far anywhere on the world are you from the rings on youranus

    Carlos SlimCarlos Slim8 hours ago
  • military alliance between the two Imperial Empires.

    yaliso gioouyyaliso gioouy8 hours ago
  • I love that moments when British people try to say something in Polish, and they are very proud of the sound they just made, when they actually aren't even close :D

    Bogusz SzulcBogusz Szulc9 hours ago
    • I watch for the ads

      yaliso gioouyyaliso gioouy8 hours ago
  • Virgin British-English dialect: Eastbourne Chad Polish lingo: *_I S T B O N_*

    noob2243noob22439 hours ago
  • Ah cool I live in that Polish town of SAUFEND-ON-SJI

    TheHabsificationTheHabsification9 hours ago
  • Hilarious video

    Luc TréguierLuc Tréguier9 hours ago
  • the Russian word Jay says at 6:05 translates to nightmare

    Alienhead GamesAlienhead Games10 hours ago
  • When Russia was invaded by Alexander the fraud, the yellow Horde of regular Russian Army responded by pushing the rotters back right to the coast of France. The Russians redid all the maps back then and named a lot of European geography with Russian names that remain today. So the English got their fine maps from the Russians.

    Duncan CrowDuncan Crow11 hours ago
  • Whoooo GORBACHEV YEY

    BREXIT MEANS BREXITBREXIT MEANS BREXIT11 hours ago
  • Hello from Russia! Привет из России!

    ๋11 hours ago
  • CAN'T YOU CALM DOWN ???… Wha's the hurry ? You'd better speak slower to make your case … otherwise you'll be granted the "usual You Tube Common Place Prize". That's not something you want to be bothered by, ins't it? OK OK I'l subscribe anyway.

    vincent7520vincent752011 hours ago
  • Your statement maybe right but I can tell you the Paris (France) map at 5:25 is far from being exact : streets are missing, the Mint facing the Pont Neuf on the left bank is entirely obliterated (I was born on one of the surrounding street in 1948 and lived in the same till 2003 !…), passages through blocks are not mentioned (essential when we're talking military occupation) … Russians have been known to be sloppy… or was Paris not so strategically important ?…

    vincent7520vincent752011 hours ago
    • Update : the rue Visconti, passage Dauphine, Rue de Nesle, rue Mazet, is missing : that's a lot for a 400m x 400m square, not to mention the total inaccuracy of the rue Mazarine, rue de Bucy and rue Dauphine junctions, not to mention the inaccuracy of the rue Jacques Callot, rue de Seine, rue Guénégaud auctions the same spot … wow ! wow ! …

      vincent7520vincent752011 hours ago
  • Well I mean... them supplying Germans have them the ability to start ww2...

    DontclickmeDontclickme12 hours ago
  • Nice channel … but the introduction is very very corny…

    vincent7520vincent752012 hours ago
  • Love how Frome got a mention 😂

    Jamie SullyJamie Sully12 hours ago
  • For whatever reasons, i have the video playback on mute.. after scrolling along i see no indication of maps of Britain... leaving page.. bye...

    Dm3qXYDm3qXY12 hours ago
  • So the Russians made maps to help their soldiers invade Britain if they ever needed to. You think we didn't do the same? The only difference is we didn't lose the Cold War and let a whole bunch of our maps get into the wrong hands during the subsequent great bugout.

    Remittance ManRemittance Man12 hours ago
  • - Откуда у них наши старые бумажные карты, Иван? - Не знаю, Иван, но хорошо что они не ничего знают о полной модели планеты в RedOctober.app

    Ленивый матросЛенивый матрос12 hours ago
  • I watch for the ads

    Robert NebotRobert Nebot14 hours ago
  • Why would the allies want to give out detailed and oriented map of their airfields, ports and such... weren't they enemies?

    Adolfas RamanauskasAdolfas Ramanauskas14 hours ago
  • i am confusion.. you said it was definitely NOT potatoes!!!??

    A VERY horny Mr.DinosaurA VERY horny Mr.Dinosaur14 hours ago
  • @Jay Foreman, why the start of the intro have a map of Copenhagen (My City = Denmark) :-)?

    erobran2erobran214 hours ago
  • 6:06 Ужас!

    groupspheragroupsphera15 hours ago
  • Soviet Union is not same as Russia, wtf

    Aladeen MotherfuckerAladeen Motherfucker15 hours ago
  • Space... lol

    devan pigdevan pig15 hours ago
  • Correction: Vodka comes from Poland! Cheers guys :)

    Nuthatch666Nuthatch66616 hours ago
  • 0:03 "winning world war 2" How long until the triggered americans come and try to claim they did it? I give it half a minute

    Random AccountRandom Account16 hours ago
  • WOW THANKS MAP MEN. I'm going to SUBSCRIBE for more map stuff

    M GM G16 hours ago
  • 7:28 who's amanda rosh lee??

    Yash Pal GoyalYash Pal Goyal16 hours ago
  • So they can find and poison people with out Google maps

    scrubby Bardscrubby Bard17 hours ago
  • 0:50 Hey, I am both Polish and from Poland and somehow he said it so bad I cannot understand it... Good job

    Bartosz PawlickiBartosz Pawlicki17 hours ago
  • Mark how did you break your nose? How long for this channel to pay for the surgery, it stands out like a sore thumb bro xD good vid tho

    Luk PukLuk Puk17 hours ago
  • Russia's "polish allys"

    YEOLEWILLYYEOLEWILLY18 hours ago
  • 4:40 here the real john davies and alexander kent www.wired.com/2015/07/secret-cold-war-maps/amp

    Rohit RaiRohit Rai18 hours ago
  • Sheldon and Amy! You look so different.

    KiskalooKiskaloo19 hours ago
  • I think actually the maps were part of Soviet Planning and thusly quite absurd, for example you show a Polish Airforce Map, very useful for an airforce that the Soviets would not entrust with any aircraft to be able to reach much beyond its borders, let alone to the south coast of England. Not only that, but in the Soviet Union the longer range your aircraft, the further you were placed from the border with the West and or strategic aircraft could only be crewed by personnel with significant family commitments so they would not be motivated to defect to the West, with an event such as an marital breakdown liable to see you posted to the east. However whilst the Soviet Union post Lenin had given up any idea of global domination focusing on its survival and post war tieing the west up in wars away from its borders I.e Korea, Vietnam, Middle East the map making department continued with Plan A, mapping and remapping the world for an occupation that not only would not but also could not happen.

    Graham ArissGraham Ariss19 hours ago
  • *Here are some Russian lessons and songs*

    Practical Russian with TamPractical Russian with Tam19 hours ago
  • They added lots of land under the Robert Moses Causeway which isn't actually there and combined the small islands of East and West Fire Island into one, which is wrong, but otherwise pretty accurate map for this area Then again it's a really old map

    kirbyman1kanden7pfkirbyman1kanden7pf19 hours ago
  • Other countries: we’ve heard of this undiscovered area where nobodies ever chartered before Britian: 0:14

    Soinas DoyiSoinas Doyi20 hours ago
  • I honestly can’t tell if that picnic thing was a joke or not.

    Dylan DreisbachDylan Dreisbach20 hours ago
    • 1:22 Andropov was director of KGB. Began big corruption investigation. Started conflict with

      Soinas DoyiSoinas Doyi20 hours ago
  • Interesting subject , pity about the idiotic presentation style.

    Grubber JtGrubber Jt20 hours ago
  • 0:30 Is that Gillingham?

    Gerard KhachaturyanGerard Khachaturyan21 hour ago
  • If your enemy has nukes... get some nukes too.

    KayAteChefKayAteChef23 hours ago
  • Espionage?

    Albert KlarnameAlbert KlarnameDay ago
  • Got the video in my recommendation, the quality is amazing!

    Giorgianni CartamanciniGiorgianni CartamanciniDay ago
  • I know this is probably an annoying comment to have, probably one you get a lot, but this is the first of your videos I've seen and I thought you were Beardyman, whom Wikipedia informs me is your brother. You bot sound and look so similar. Anyway, I'll carry on playing the video now,are it to 0.11 before I had to go and check. I'll drop by again later to comment on the actual content of the video, thanks, bye.

    Craig JonesCraig JonesDay ago
  • @jayforemen you will have to checkout the application for the swiss maps (swiss topo) all swiss maps are available through the app. they are not as accurate as the swiss military maps i used, but the information those maps contain are insane

    Thomas LuethiThomas LuethiDay ago
  • что это за язык?

    Карась ВасинКарась ВасинDay ago
  • I worked in an archive for a while, and found a series of Soviet maps of the UK, and a number of the local military bases had been labelled as schools (likely due to British intelligence trickery) and all schools were marked as non-targets.

    SpoopsSpoopsDay ago
  • Very well explained. Excellent quality. Well done.

    Robert MihalacheRobert MihalacheDay ago
  • Russian spies also measure the height of church bell towers in Salisbury...

    BabalonkieBabalonkieDay ago
  • Hanscom is about 20 minutes from my house, and I haven't seen more than one or two of the runways. It's a logistics base these days with a large civilian population.

    JötunnJötunnDay ago
  • I wish they had invaded . That way the E.U. wouldn`t have existed .

    xfire7xfire7Day ago
  • The first ever post-Brexit video (as in the first after the transition period).

    Elijah Edric GuintoElijah Edric GuintoDay ago
  • 1:22 Andropov was chief of KGB. Started big anticorruption campaign. As result it was war between Ministry of Internal Affairs(Soviet Police) and KGB. It is possible that he was assassinated

    DartLukeDartLukeDay ago
  • Only 15% of the KGB's budget was used for spying as we know it. The other 85% percent was used for "ideological subversion" (propagandizing receptive populations). Source: ex-KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov

    frankfrankDay ago
  • ДЕГ момент

    Фердинанд УткинФердинанд УткинDay ago
  • Because socialism is a far more effective system and Soviet people were more educated and better trained.

    Pirvog CompostPirvog CompostDay ago
  • oi, mate... know where I can get a map? Bonus Comment: Because they were Russian made they were all drawn with a pencil!

    The Original ChefboyoboyThe Original ChefboyoboyDay ago
  • The thief from chips challenge??? :)

    Tim MTim MDay ago
  • Swiss Maps. Small country. Lots of money. A defensively oriented military focused on artillery on mountain tops. Equals - unbelievable maps. Singular trees are visible on most.

    Mickey WakefieldMickey WakefieldDay ago
    • “I believe” is a fancy way of saying I have a vague recollection of this but can’t remember the details.

      Charles Sebastian Michel de ColbertCharles Sebastian Michel de Colbert5 hours ago
    • I believe Napoleon commissioned a huge and detailed 3D relief model of Switzerland, which became a tourist attraction in its own right after the war.

      Charles Sebastian Michel de ColbertCharles Sebastian Michel de Colbert5 hours ago
  • Radiators huh, The Russian San Galli's claim as the inventor of the heating radiator is disputed. It appears that he is one of several people who contributed to the development of the heating innovation. San Galli received a radiator patent in 1857, while American Joseph Nason developed a primitive radiator in 1841and received a number of U.S. patents for hot water and steam heating. Nason's patent for tapered pipe threads in particular is cited by 1930s writer Ara Marcus Daniels as the key development in the birth of the radiator.

    Colonel PanicColonel PanicDay ago
  • KOSHMAR!

    TheThousandhoursTheThousandhoursDay ago
  • actress playing her...

    dueeh nyyudueeh nyyuDay ago
  • The periodic table? I'm pretty sure the UK has made the largest contribution to the periodic table?

    yo yoyo yoDay ago
    • paranoid ex-secret services agents, it’s just a matter of short time for this to become the past, thanks to the laws of nature. 
GЯEДT VIDEO FOLKS! 🖖

      dueeh nyyudueeh nyyuDay ago
  • Your book is currently unavailable on Amazon. Any other source to get it? Thank you

    Dariel RodríguezDariel RodríguezDay ago
  • Poland invented Vodka in 1405 just like the irish invented whiskey in 1405 ONE STRUGGLE

    The Proffsr DickinsonThe Proffsr DickinsonDay ago
  • „Don’t watch it now, watch it later!“ - here‘s that episode: usworlds.info/slow/video/oKykqa_SoWOYYaE

    MadEckiMadEckiDay ago
  • Only thing more irritating than Meg is British Accent.

    Aditya Narayan RaiAditya Narayan RaiDay ago
  • Tunbridge wells translation is jokes

    Gavin LittleGavin LittleDay ago
  • i'm polish and live in britland, and the phonetic spelling is not bad lol

    KamilKamilDay ago
  • because they had bears to ride on

    OhThatEditOhThatEditDay ago
  • Finally another video of Map men

    Rajdeep GharaRajdeep GharaDay ago
  • You win at 1:03!

    Andrea DavideAndrea DavideDay ago
  • Winning WW2 is debatable

    23rt2308u24tkhg23rt2308u24tkhgDay ago
    • They were the reason ww2 was won, they captured Berlin, killed the most soldiers, and undoubtedly won the war

      simon duppersimon dupperDay ago
    • No it’s not

      KongKongDay ago
  • 5:59 expected a NordVPN ad right about here

    dustboxednorthdustboxednorthDay ago
  • k o s h m a r

    YouSoSpiceYouSoSpiceDay ago
  • The Chip's Challenge spy icon lmfao

    oaketreeoaketreeDay ago
  • When you said won the war for us, I puked a little. If you consider the rape and pillage of hundreds of miles of land a win then kudos to you.

    Bob BaguetteBob BaguetteDay ago
  • Hence the draft of young men of the free West in the army, like myself.

    Marco AnonymousMarco AnonymousDay ago
  • *I am Russian and I made very detailed maps of some parts of the UK. Spoiler alert: this won’t be a spy story* 😁 Shortly after moving to London in 2009 as a student, I became interested in OpenStreetMap (OSM), which is an open map of the whole planet similar to Wikipedia. It did not take me much time to discover a nice local OSM community with pub meetups in ‘mapping parties’, which I happily joined. A mapping party in OSM is when the volunteers split some area into slices, decide who maps what, then walk around with clipboards, pens and photo cameras and finally add the collected data to the database under a free license. A few London blocks around Baker Street is an example of how crazy I sometimes went in surveying the details: see building colours and roof shapes, street lamps, individual trees, etc.: demo.f4map.com/#lat=51.5230613&lon=-0.1591994&zoom=18&camera.theta=49.87&camera.phi=42.112 I bet Soviet spies would be jealous! 😂
 I did not know about that crazy mapping project by the Soviets until going to an exception called ‘Maps and the 20th Century’, which took place at the British library in 2017. There was a pretty large paper map of Brighton, which I found pretty detailed, but not exceptional by any means at first glance. Only after checking the label plate, I realised that all captions on that map were in Cyrillic and this totally blew my mind! The funniest thing for me then was that a few years before seeing that Soviet map I also mapped Brighton with OSM folks, and my ‘mapping cake’ slice was the Brighton peer. The photo of how I was processing the collected data was even uploaded to Wikimedia commons by somebody after that: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Adding_data_to_OSM_after_mapping_Brighton_Pier.jpg 
Again, a Soviet spy would be 100% jealous seeing the tech that I used! 😂
 It’s so cool to realise that the fabric of the 21st century is much more open and humane compared to the 20th century’s one. Although parts of the world are still ruled by old and paranoid ex-secret services agents, it’s just a matter of short time for this to become the past, thanks to the laws of nature. 
GЯEДT VIDEO FOLKS! 🖖

    Alexander KachkaevAlexander KachkaevDay ago
  • glad to hear Russia won WW2 for us especially the 2 years of the war they were essentially on the Germans side

    ReplaymywayReplaymywayDay ago
  • спасибо за видео, товарищи. смотрел вместе с медведем

    alteronlinealteronlineDay ago
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