My C10 is Bent! Let's Fix it with A Better Way to Bend and Notch Tubing! Finnegan's Garage Ep.129

Feb 19, 2021
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For years Newbern and I have struggled to build rollcages without wasting a lot of time and tubing. Well, thanks to the recent purchase of some innovative tools and a few tips from a fellow USworldsr, we just leveled-up our cage game! In this video we'll demonstrate how to use the tool kit from
Centurial Tools www.centurialinc.com/tube-coping-tools
as we finish up the cage on my 1967 Chevrolet C10 sport truck. This is the truck with the 650hp supercharged Chevrolet Performance LT4 crate engine, the 6xdgearbox.com billet aluminum sequential manual transmission, the independent rear suspension, Forgeline 20-inch wheels and Mittler Bros hydraulically adjustable Hydroshox!
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Here's where I got my JMR hydraulic bender dies from:
www.trick-tools.com/search/go?w=jmr%20bender
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Thanks for watching!
-Finnegan

Comments
  • You ALMOST cost me a computer with the 'worm' comment!I just about sprayed my keyboard down with coke! But wait...If Cotten has super powers to do the worm (and I'd say he does) does that make him SUPER WORM?

    burt bacarachburt bacarach17 hours ago
  • This kind of thing always takes me so long to accomplish. Glad it takes you guys a long time too. Makes me feel better.

    Keith ThompsonKeith ThompsonDay ago
  • Volvo S40's have an electric power steering pump if you want to keep they hydraulic rack

    Zach CostelloZach CostelloDay ago
  • You guys are awesome!!!💯💯💯I still watch ROADKILL and I'm glad to find your channel 😀😊

    Peter StoltzPeter Stoltz2 days ago
  • Right on brother you guys rock.

    Allen MessmerAllen Messmer2 days ago
  • Next time measure from the mark on the firewall to the laser point (approx. 23:30) with the straight edge (leaving the cheater on the frame adapter). That way you can do the job by your self and It should be more accurate.

    Zack VanderlindenZack Vanderlinden2 days ago
  • Holley makes a really nice mid mount accessory drive system for the LS and LT.

    Noah JamesNoah James2 days ago
  • Newbern should wear at least gloves and even long sleeves while he welds... I know an old welder who exclusively wears thick leather gloves because as he puts it, his hands are his moneymakers. If he injures a hand he's out of a job.

    M AstleyM Astley3 days ago
  • I don't understand marking the "center" of the tube before you have started cutting and welding. When you are just dealing with a straight piece of pipe like that, ANY straight line (if it is thin enough) is a center line. Just set the tube on a piece of angle and trace the edge of the angle onto the tube. If it is short enough, a doorjamb works great for this. Till your wife asks why there are sharpie marks all over the doorjambs...

    John InnisJohn Innis3 days ago
  • Is there a link for the 3d printed tools in this video?

    Layton HammannLayton Hammann4 days ago
  • @23:30 couldn’t you also just measure from the laser pointer to the desired mark on the fire wall

    TheBisquikTheBisquik4 days ago
  • It will mark the center of your tube as long as your not using a plastic table

    Ryan PurttemanRyan Purtteman4 days ago
  • Sandrails are using the Electric steering columns from prius and other vehicles. Works great.👍

    G FAMILYG FAMILY4 days ago
  • Most people seem to be using Asian electrical power steering. Toyota units are very popular.

    JayinMIJayinMI4 days ago
  • Lookin nice, some company makes an low profile adjustable electric power steering kits that mounts below the steering collar. Should stop thanking the magic god/jesus as their is over 3000's of these magic gods around the world. Plus no evidence of any of them. All religions have some sort of issues with sex abuse towards children and women.

    Religions Is About MagicReligions Is About Magic4 days ago
  • I absolutely love watching your videos mate. Thoroughly enjoying them here in the UK

    Hall's Autobody & PaintHall's Autobody & Paint4 days ago
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    Sara BarnesSara Barnes4 days ago
  • I like what you do but this truck has kind of lost it's soul along the way eh. It's a c10 like a nascar is a mustang

    Gene KingGene King4 days ago
  • A Toyota mr2 electric power steering pump would fix you up for sure.

    Zack HedrickZack Hedrick5 days ago
  • The Worm scene just killed me, dude...😂

    Scottimus GarrettScottimus Garrett5 days ago
  • Older mr2 electric power steering pump like the formula supra

    Jok3y Jesu3Jok3y Jesu35 days ago
  • Mike, use a manual rack and a Prius or yaris electric column, it's a 3 wire hook up and provides a decent amount of assistance.👍

    Derek HansenDerek Hansen5 days ago
  • Without scrolling through the current amount (849) comments, did anyone mention that when you bend a tube, the wall thickness of the outside radius of the bend is actually thinner? Check the thickness of the tube (as any NHRA chassis inspector would) and see what the thickness of the tubes are in the bends. If the cage is to be certified (which I doubt) for any kind of racing, I’m sure the inspectors will check that the tubes are the same wall thickness.

    T FriesenT Friesen5 days ago
  • Newbern Looks good and tired at the beginning of the video. Don't you let him sleep Finnegan???

    Kellen HuntKellen Hunt5 days ago
  • Badass tool.

    Kurtz GarfieldKurtz Garfield5 days ago
  • Wives hate br

    Mr ChipsMr Chips6 days ago
  • Nothing but good stuff Finn and Newbern!

    RT NorlandRT Norland7 days ago
  • Very good episode with tons of useful info!

    Lance WardLance Ward7 days ago
  • What about the catty

    David vonAnderseckDavid vonAnderseck8 days ago
  • Check out hoovies garage they put a prius elec motor on the steering shaft for a manual rack.

    StumpyBuiltStumpyBuilt8 days ago
  • What is the work light you use?

    Ryan RaskRyan Rask8 days ago
  • For finding the centre of a tube i use a piece of angle iron. Just put on top and draw a line.

    tim joris de vriestim joris de vries9 days ago
  • GoPro fisheye @24:11 makes you boys look swole! (Or hunchback.)

    Tucker AmidonTucker Amidon9 days ago
  • Hey gang! Awesome build, love your stuff. Just wanted to reach out real quick with a little additional science for ya. When you're talking about the chlorinated brake clean you're absolutely correct about it transforming into phosgene gas. First off the stuff is neurotoxic which means the poisoning occurs in the brain and it's incredibly nasty and lethal. One whiff of the stuff is enough to kill an adult human. The actual transformation of the chlorine to the phosgene is why I wanted to write all this. You mentioned that it's when it's superheated and that's not quite accurate. What triggers the transformation is the UV light that the arc gives off. If you were gas welding for instance, you would still have the heat to melt the steel pipe, but not the intensity of the UV and I don't believe the transformation would occur. I wouldn't take the chance however. I read in a welding journal (journeyman welder here) about someone welding over a tiny puddle of brake clean (think rust pit size) and getting a funny smell for a split second. By that evening he had a blinding headache, he was vomiting uncontrollably and couldn't maintain a coherent thought train. His wife called the ambulance and he made it, but he suffers from memory issues, coordination deterioration and other nasty symptoms. So you were exactly correct, be super careful when using it, that you get the non-chlorinated version. CRC makes a really good one, because the chlorinated cans are red, and the non-chlorinated ones are green. Hope this helps! Stay safe!

    Ross PurdyRoss Purdy9 days ago
  • great work! a suggestion for next time: @23:39 when you are trying to calculate the height needed. Next time, try leaving the tube in place on top of the quick disconnect as it already was. You know the laser is in the center of the tube, take a measurement vertically from where the laser is to the center of your attachment panel on the truck, and that should be your distance needed in the tube to raise it high enough to connect the two properly. Since the tube is already at 90* (parallel to the chassis) and your quick disconnect was installed at 90* (perpendicular to the chassis) the only variable you have to solve for at that point is the needed height between the laser's dot and the center on your attachment pannel on the firewall. Seriously love, not trying to armchair engineering just thought it might save you some time in the future.

    Jarod EmahizerJarod Emahizer9 days ago
  • Super video! I applauded for $2.00 👏

    scott stanleyscott stanley9 days ago
  • Mike I'd highly recommend looking into a universal electric steering rack. Not only can you adjust a setup like this to be more or less responsive with the turn of a knob but it also gives you power steering with just battery power - the vehicle doesn't have to be running! Check out a company called Turn One Steering or American Powertrain sells a kit now as well. Just throw a manual rack in there - add the power assist box - use any column you want BAM!

    aXBlackDeathXaaXBlackDeathXa9 days ago
  • I like all the new fab tools you got and used on this project. keep up the great work.

    Robert ChaffeeRobert Chaffee9 days ago
  • Great video i learn a lot.

    batbat1156batbat11569 days ago
  • Worm Man

    John GrayJohn Gray9 days ago
  • Mike, you can use VOLVO 2004-2013 Volvo C70 C30 S40 electric power stearing pump. It is compact and work super.

    Kris.IvanovvKris.Ivanovv10 days ago
  • Hey Mike, when you are completing the last weld on a tube that "caps" the pipe, you now have expanding air rushing through the hole that you are welding up as the tube is heating up and the air inside of the tube is expanding and looking for a place to get out! To prevent this, drill a hole in your plate that will pass into the center of the tube. This is also good practice for roll cages. Drill a small hole in the tube that you are landing your next tube to, but do it so that the hole will be covered by the new tube that you are now welding to the project.

    KSR Performance & FabricationKSR Performance & Fabrication10 days ago
    • @Brett marcus that’s genius

      Nicholas PayneNicholas Payne2 days ago
    • You can also tap that hole for a schrader valve and then after welding, install the schrader valve. This lets you pressurize the tubes throughout the life of the cage to test for any weld failures.

      Brett marcusBrett marcus2 days ago
    • Doh, just read the other commenters saying the same thing and you mentioning the vent hole. You are probably right about there being oil inside of the tube. Doesn't take much to make a nice weld turn ugly!

      KSR Performance & FabricationKSR Performance & Fabrication10 days ago
  • use a late 2000s mr2 eletric pump from the mr2 spider

    Vailos QuietVailos Quiet10 days ago
  • Could do some sheet metal inner fenders off the bars to the frame rail, maybe with some zeus clips lol. or dimple die some trusses for the 90°s.

    camaross92camaross9210 days ago
  • Get yourself a lady that loves the smell of brakleen.

    Jim HenlineJim Henline10 days ago
  • Thanks for showing our tools. Good work gentlemen.

    Centurial IncCenturial Inc10 days ago
  • Couldn't you measure from the laser point/dot to the center point of the fish plate? Instead of trying to hold the piece up and level and take a measurement.

    Skubasteve21Skubasteve2110 days ago
  • If your struggling for room or aftermarket options. You can get a electric power steering which goes on the steering column which maybe an idea for you.

    lewis abbottlewis abbott10 days ago
  • You boys need a Tapeboss!

    Pana GiotisPana Giotis11 days ago
  • Look at Cooper Bugatti 240 hydraulic power steering set up don't know if it's something you would be interested in

    Night RiderNight Rider11 days ago
  • You kids do nice work

    ltsevenltseven11 days ago
  • Gadget tools that actually work is awesome, good info 👍🏻,,, But with my 20 plus yrs of off-road cage, bumpers, rock sliders, etc fabing, another cool DIY tool is a 4'x3/8" break line, you can bend it to fit Many times over for exact angles and length (up to 4' , need longer get longer) ! Had to give my "2cents",,, AND YOU GUY ARE AWESOME 😎 LV THE CHANNEL !! AND at 12:03 GIT YA SAFETY GLASSES ON !!

    Jwy2063Jwy206311 days ago
  • About time Letz Goo

    Steven ParaoneSteven Paraone11 days ago
  • Check out electric power steering from a Prius. The motor is under dash out of sight.

    Dead End GarageDead End Garage11 days ago
  • Look into late model mopar stuff for power steering, I worked on a 2012 challenger 5.7 that had an electric power steering pump, it still takes fluid but its electric over hydraulic

    B DoyleB Doyle11 days ago
  • MR2's, Volvos, and possibly a newer Mini have power steering pumps that are driven with a motor so you can keep the rack the way it is and mount the pump where ever you want. My Race Shop LLC makes a programable controller for the MR2 pump if you go that route.

    pgf202pgf20211 days ago
  • Now take and scratch those marks permanently into that cheater pipe for when the marker rubs off.

    Dan LDan L11 days ago
  • Toyota mr 2 has electric power steering that’s easy to modify

    Cody ThomfordeCody Thomforde11 days ago
  • The Car Wizard did electric power steering from a Prius in Hoovie’s ‘GT 350’

    herculesrockafellerherculesrockafeller11 days ago
  • quick way to find tube centerline, take combination sq, set blade of square to oa pipe diameter, yes diameter...put cast part of sq on top of pipe, blade down side, get blade end flat against table, flat surface and pull square down pipe, pushing blade hard against pipe, the blade will scratch pipe in center, and if need, can also mark top, exactly perpendicular, 90 deg. from 1st line

    JFK64 KennedyJFK64 Kennedy11 days ago
  • 23:30 mark, just point the laser to the centerline on the firewall and measure the distance to your target. You won’t have to try and hold the tube level and measure and keep it on target with the laser all at the same time 👍🏻

    BMC Turbo and FabBMC Turbo and Fab11 days ago
  • MR2 power steering pump

    Zack LoftisZack Loftis12 days ago
  • When I turned 50 I realized that I didn't know as much as I did when I was 25. I enjoy your explanations, they are on the line of "You have brains but maybe didn't know this."

    Deck ApeDeck Ape12 days ago
  • This was the exact video I was looking for, without looking for it.

    Tyler LewisTyler Lewis12 days ago
  • also, just do prius/saturn electric steering assist.

    mason shipmanmason shipman12 days ago
  • come drive my volvo swapped datsun bullet side and then sponsor me thanks

    mason shipmanmason shipman12 days ago
  • I was all-in on the C10...but I think I'm loving (& wanting more of) the Cadillac content! #FSM

    Manny SManny S12 days ago
  • look up ford/volvo electric steering pump. you can remote mount it anywhere. used in a lot of different hot rods and swaps.

    mindwreckRCmindwreckRC12 days ago
  • The weld on the tube didn't loose argon coverage, it blew out. You crated a sealed chamber and heated it up. when you seal up a tube like that you need to drill a small hole to relive the pressure.

    Jack HoffJack Hoff12 days ago
  • Nice tube work

    Andy YarnellAndy Yarnell12 days ago
  • Drinking game: drink every time Mike says bend.

    callthemallcallthemall12 days ago
  • Another great channel is Bad Obsession Motorsport. They shoe horned a 4wd Toyota into a classic mini. They ended up using a electric over hydraulic Mercedes power steering pump.

    Evan LesinskiEvan Lesinski12 days ago
  • The laser cant just fit in the tube without the profile part?

    dopesquatchdopesquatch12 days ago
  • "Be really careful!" As he wipes down tubing with a rag soaked in acetone WITH HIS BARE HANDS!

    Rob RotenRob Roten12 days ago
  • Friendly observation... Guys when Mike celebrated at the end of the video I noticed a much better stereo sound. Was that because the video was taken with a different device?

    steve goodwinsteve goodwin12 days ago
  • Well, gr8 work guys and totally informative and simplified technical training for people who also have OCD to some degree!!! Oh, what's going on with the Cadillac?

    W JW J12 days ago
  • Could the struts be tilted out toward the fenders to create more clearance around the engine? Maybe you could loosely hose clamp a ruler to the mock-up bend so it could be slid out to measure the needed additional length.

    JimPeachleyJimPeachley12 days ago
  • This truck is the US version of Binky...

    CertifiedCarNutCertifiedCarNut12 days ago
  • Newbern's a gem bro, look after that guy.

    DEATHSTROKEDEATHSTROKE12 days ago
  • Need a weep hole in tube to allow excess gases to escape that’s why it blows out where your trying to finish the weld..... I would of put on backside of that firewall plate where it’ll be covered 🤙🏼

    sas86toysas86toy13 days ago
    • lol just seen that’s already been commented ... oops but drilling a #30 hole behind firewall plate would be a good spot.

      sas86toysas86toy13 days ago
  • Holley makes an Accessory Drive System and Power Steering Add-On Kits for GM Gen V LT4's www.holley.com/products/engine/accessory_drive_brackets_and_kits/gm_gen_v_lt/

    CoRy35744CoRy3574413 days ago
  • with the power steering there are electric hydraulic options, instead of an engine drive hydraulic pump or electric power steer it's an electric power steer pump so the steering is still a hydraulic rack but the pump can just be mounted on the firewall or anywhere really the car i was looking at for here Australia was a 1998-2006 Holden Astra so i imagine a similar year GM compact hatch would have a similar unit

    Shayne GadsdenShayne Gadsden13 days ago
  • In Australia it’s pretty popular to use a 1998 - 2008 Holden astra (not sure if GM sold them in US or not) power steering pump for conversions. they are an electric pump that can be plumbed into a hydraulic rack. Can also be remote mounted out of engine bay.

    hq632hq63213 days ago
  • Hey jackals you can weld a t I've completely closed without drilling a whole Also mr2 and valvo have electric power steering in the trunk

    mk2vrtmk2vrt13 days ago
  • Bro that's awesome watching you teach yourself tubing. I went through something similar with instrument tubing on my last major project and I know exactly your pain😂

    Shaun HensleyShaun Hensley13 days ago
  • Hi Finnegan, Regarding your Power Steering trouble there are options. 1. Electric power steering. Use power steering rack and control unit from a Toyota Prius, easily installed and wired up. There's even a wire up on this at Hotrod Magazine website! Pros on using the Toyota electrical power steering is that they go in to failsafe mode with no CANBUS connected so they have a constant, fairly normal, power steering assist instead of variable with speed. GM units don't work AT ALL without CANBUS or a CANBUS simulator. 2. Electrical PS pump from a modern Volvo, like an S60 or similar. 12v supply and ground. That's it. Can be remote mounted.

    Tim JohanssonTim Johansson13 days ago
  • What is that orange lathe in the back round?

    Clayton PereversoffClayton Pereversoff13 days ago
  • 12 volt Dave with the safety squint. Made my day

    Rhys SutherlandRhys Sutherland13 days ago
  • hey guys. someone may have mentioned this already. It seems like instead of having Newbern hold that pipe up so that the laser shines on the crosshair for Finnegan to measure the base. Instead maybe you could just have left it in place then measured from the laser on the firewall up to the crosshair. just a thought in case next time you don't have any help around to assist. good video.

    Zach JenkinsZach Jenkins13 days ago
  • I've watched his videos! You can learn a bunch from him! Nice work guys! Thanks for sharing!

    Farming - Firefighting and Fun with Big JohnFarming - Firefighting and Fun with Big John13 days ago
  • So apparently the Toyota MR2 had an electric power steering pump, as in a electric pump that creates the hydraulic pressure for your hydraulic power steering. I guess drifters use them, at the 17 minute mark of this video they mount one and talk about it. usworlds.info/slow/video/iI12g4faf3KaoZk

    Brian TimothyBrian Timothy13 days ago
  • 12:01 Whole wall of safety devices... just closes his eyes... #facepalm

    Stonewall78Stonewall7813 days ago
  • Awesome video

    James FowlerJames Fowler13 days ago
  • Can watch this all day , but jobs and such.

    Steven SimmonsSteven Simmons13 days ago
  • Hey Mike quick tip about when you were welding the tube to the sandwich plate and the tube kinda blew out, this is due to pressure build up in the sealed tube, i learned about this from Joel from Overkill Racing Chassis, if you drill a small hole in the tube this allows pressure to vent and not blow out your weld. When you are done just spot weld the tube back and noone will know

    Emmett MorrisonEmmett Morrison13 days ago
  • You guys really need them kinda tools. Wow must me the exhaust fumes making them slow or something!

    William LordWilliam Lord13 days ago
  • Instead of the cheater tube, get some bending software. Bend-Tech EZ is pretty good.

    Henry Gillow-WilesHenry Gillow-Wiles13 days ago
  • Acetone straight on the skin absorbs in quickly and attacks your liver. Use gloves

    Matt : AdultingMatt : Adulting13 days ago
  • Electric power steering form a Saturn Vue. Epas on eBay has kits. Super easy and can control how much assist it gives with turn of a dial! They did it on fasterproms miata

    Random GearHeadRandom GearHead13 days ago
  • Cotton kills the worm man! Wish I could move like that lol

    tom moontom moon13 days ago
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